Neo09 updates

[PitMan]

hi everyone i thought i would kick off a new thread about the neo09 happening in about 20 days now here is a brief driver list for this event

Nitro class

Driver Engine Tag Name
Dave Grunill Ops/radical Fastboy
James Overton Grenade --------
James Price Os speed Jimiprice
John Spencer Grenade --------
Lee Taylor Grenade --------
Neil Burdess Ninja Birdy

Elec class

Jason Anderson Picco

Now the last one confuses me a little as he is running a picco in the elec class and hails from usa any ideas on who he is or if he is runing the event

I will have a laptop on site with internet connection and will upload pics and include a drivers report its going to be a heavy weekend but worth it
caster is getting a good gathering in the uk now with very good support from Anwser-rc so this is my way of representing back to Anwser-rc
and caster racing

[razzor]

cool !!! :)
Thanks Pitman that would be awesome for our own live coverage :)

Nice to 6 guys get into the event seeing there was a lot of entries waiting for a slot.
Sure Jason Anderson was a typo or put in the wrong class maybe.

Event page is http://www.neo09.net/

Nice to also see 3 Grenades in action ...

[PitMan]

is jason attending then razzor

[razzor]

dont think, so must check final entry list.

[PitMan]

dont think jason got the time off from duty is germany under immenant attack this weekend !!

lol

here is some prep work on the track

http://rcracedates.webs.com/apps/photos/

updates and pics asap think Casters banners are right in view

[BBFBCAP]

WOW!!! I'm excited to see the photos and coverage your going to do for us. Thansk man, it's appreciated!

[badassrevo]

Love all those Caster banners hanging at the track!!

[Andy Taylor]

cool !!! :)


Nice to also see 3 Grenades in action ...
We ran a grenade in the first round of our Nationals today and following a great warm up last week, where Lee managed to bump up into the B final, with most of the same guys racing this weekend we had a bad Qualifying and only managed the E Final.

During this final he was taken out twice over 2 large jumps and to add insult to injury was ignored for over 12 seconds by the marshalls (licking their wounds I think) so I made the call to leave him out and see how long he could run on Astro turf, (he was already back down to 9th)

He managed 9 mins 46 secs using a grenade with only half a gallon on it!

Using Dave Crompton DC power fuel you soon see why Dave always manages to stretch to 10 min stops .

On the smaller slick surface at neo we should be ok to get 10 mins without going down in venturi.

[Mr Fusion]

Jason didn't get the time off... but was going to run a Fusion at the race

[Northy]

I'll be there with a Fusion Pro in electric...... if I get any working electrics :(

G

[janderson78]

Hey guys,

Sorry I was not able to get off for the race. I am still new here in Germany and with it being Easter alot of people had request in prior to me. So with this being the military I do have to stay and do my job over the weekend. I wish I could elaborate more on the duty I will be doing this weekend but I can not. As for racing the Caster I still plan on supporting as best I can. So if any of you guys need help with a dirt set up for the buggy shoot me a messege and I can help you out. I will just have to see pics of the track and see what kind of dirt they are using. Go Caster!

[janderson78]

Northy what are you needing?

JAson

[Answer-RC]

Hes been busy blowing up escs and motors but think he is sorted now.. though another guy may not be.... He may end up running a Losi unless we find someone over here with a Nue..

[Northy]

Well a dirt set-up for the Fusion Pro would be good :)

I think I'm sorted for electrics now, I may have just got the last MMM in the world, or that's how it feels! :&!@

G

[razzor]

what is issue with SP setup ???

[janderson78]

Well,

I had a NUE and a ESC you could have used. But I am glad you have it all sorted. Also shoot me an email and we can talk about the track and setup you might like.

Jason

[Northy]

Thanks for the Set-up help Jason, my car is remarkably similar! ;)

Well guys, I think I'm almost ready, MMM fitted, just got to pack stuff up tonight and load it ready to set off tomorrow. :cool:

G

[PitMan]

I will be down sat morning northy see you down there pete has set aside a space for the caster guys to pit

[fastboy]

altho i wont be racing a caster i will be there for anyone who needs any help with their casters,just come and ask..not you graham tho :)

[Northy]

I will be down sat morning northy see you down there pete has set aside a space for the caster guys to pit

You not racing then? Or just no practise?

G

[Northy]

altho i wont be racing a caster i will be there for anyone who needs any help with their casters,just come and ask..not you graham tho :)

Cheers Dave "ka

[fastboy]

hehe only kidding graham..feel the love:#$

[PitMan]

No not racing I didnt get in to the event this year maybe next year fingers crossed

so I will be pitman for the weekend and supporting pete ( answer-rc ) and caster in general

The heat listings are up for practice

In total we have

2 out of 30 in electric ( John Spencer, Graham North )
5 out of 180 in Nitro ( Neil Burdess, James Overton, Lee Taylor, John Spencer, James Price )

http://www.rcnews.net/live/listings/practice.pdf

[Answer-RC]

Assuming we have a 3G connection I will try and keep this updated ;-)

http://www.neo09.answer-rc.com/

[fastboy]

i was going to nip into town and get a usb broadband dongle for laptop down there pete but no idea which one :(

[Answer-RC]

I saw your thread..

Vodafone seems to be the best but none look like they will be mega there.
my vodafone one will get a GPRS signal where my Voda mobile wont. Its a bit different as its built in to my lappy rather than a dongle but I imagine the actual gubbins is the same..

[Andy Taylor]

I saw your thread..

Vodafone seems to be the best but none look like they will be mega there.
my vodafone one will get a GPRS signal where my Voda mobile wont. Its a bit different as its built in to my lappy rather than a dongle but I imagine the actual gubbins is the same..

Hi chaps

Its overcast and raining here!
I am on my laptop using a Vodaphone dongle and its only GPRS.

My Virgin (T mobile) phone has 3 g here so if any one has a T Mobile dongle it might be faster access.

There is an unsecured wireless network but it is low strength. :( :)

I will try and get some pics up later.

I am pleasantly surprised at the layout. Its technical but also not as manic as other years, In my humble opinion. 5 big doubles one extra large on in the center of the track looks like it will get ROSTRUM eye level cars.

Camera crews stations are all ready and final prep work is under way.

Its also going out live via the internet at the BBK site from time to time.

[Answer-RC]

Hey Andy - save some pit space - think everyone is down there the next few hours.

[Andy Taylor]

Hey Andy - save some pit space - think everyone is down there the next few hours.

Already done Pete...lol

[razzor]

Good luck guys !!!

Have a blast !!!

[fastboy]

is it as cold as last year in the pitting and race halls andy?

i really hope not..

[Answer-RC]

Cant really compete with Jimmys reporting skills.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09/

[Dave D]

Man I thought the Durango photo's were of a Caster until I read about it.

[PitMan]

http://www.bbk-online.net/bbkRClive/

[cheesecake]

what time is it there?

never mind i found it helps if i turned on the other screen

[Dave D]

That's cool that the Marshals sweep the track between practrice rounds. What rounds are the Caster Drivers in.

[Dave D]

Well you guy's get to run with one of our locals I see.
Tyler Vik

[razzor]

heat 2
lee taylor
John Spencer

heat3
James Overton

heat 4
James Price

heat 5
David grunill
Neil Burdess

electric heat 14
John Spencer
Graham North

[Deznuts05]

here's a live feed!

http://www.bbk-online.net/bbkRClive/

[Dave D]

Spencer just broke in his 3rd practice round and North was in the middle. Good Job guy's

[Answer-RC]

Hey guys - 9pm here, just finished masuling with cars and eating pizza!

Its been a good day all round (mostly!) but hey thats what practice is there for. All the guys have been improving and finding speed and set up. Today was just a day of learning the track and ther heats are reseeded over night best on your best three consecutive laps during the day. There have been various niggles, switches and odd and sods causing issues.

Also worth looking at in Electric is Nathan Ralls who I never realised he was racing until I saw him putting the car down before practice. he turned up and got a last minute entry due to drop out having collected a motor on the way to the event!

Fastest of the Caster guys in nitro is Lee Taylor at around 100th but when you look at the competition at the meet its not far off a worlds event.

Graham North in electric has gone "creative" on us and has a novel revision to the Fusion. I think hes trying to make a giant 1/10th scale car.. BUIT he did put his fastest time in using his "innovation"

Funniest thing of the day was seeing Gerd Strange (mr Durango) sprinting from the pits when an esc started to crack pop and bang - he was motoring out of there!

Sorry for the lack of info but photo uploads are too slow and Ive been pitting, messing with cars and stuff all day. Good to be here though.

Pete

[razzor]

Pete the follow up is welcomed.
Enjoy and get spannering !!!

beem watching the bbk site and my connection wasnt to good so for the rest of the weekend ive hijacked my wifes HSDPA modem.
Watched the last 1/2 hour perfectly.

good luck tomorrow.

[Answer-RC]

`you see the fight there?

[razzor]

no couldnt see it but heard about it on the blog.
sad though but it must have been something serious to warrant that response.

[Andy Taylor]

no couldnt see it but heard about it on the blog.
sad though but it must have been something serious to warrant that response.

Serious or not violence should not be tolerated. This is a HOBBY and the sad facts are that to get places you have to become semi professional.

Anyway back to the action.

As Pete says some minor niggles have plagued us all day but from our point of view we are happy with the car and the pace it has showed so far. We have tried a couple of things and while I am still not convinced that 10 minute qualifiers are the way to go, especially when engines are not cheap. I am confident we are in a much better shape for tomorrow.

Armed with a Brand new Futaba radio (he has just driven over 80 miles to collect it) Lee said the Old KO seems detached from the car, so lets see how he goes tomorrow with a new radio set. (what a place to try it) Dohh

It looks like fastboys mod on the shocks is better than standard but as with all "performance" improvements the trade off is a slight weeping of shock oil.

The track is a drivers track. Sheer pace will not win this event. A fair number of places you need to be very careful as its OFF camber" and a tight turn. The big jumps will play a part as the heat seeding might well throw up a slower driver or two , and "going for it" when the jump is not on might well cost some of the quicker drivers a round or two.

We will ty and get you some team photos later tommorow but for now I am finishing this can of carlsberg and off to bed shortly.

[Dave D]

Keep it up, your all doing great.

[PitMan]

update

video's from todays practice hosted on my site


http://rcracedates.webs.com/

[Mr Fusion]

Wow, the Caster banners look awesome!

[Dave D]

update

video's from todays practice hosted on my site


http://rcracedates.webs.com/


Nice site and great video's. In the general practice video I saw someone with a stick radio in there hands at about 33 seconds. Do many people use those?

[Mr Fusion]

Some guys outside the U.S. still use them, including the great Masami himself

[razzor]

stick is very popular in the UK and Europe as well as in Japan.
Its my personal preference to.


Love the look of that track. Definately some ideas for our track there.

Pitman look forward to more news.

[PitMan]

stick used to be the only thing that people used in the uk but since alot more of the rtr kits were coming into the country with wheels then the balance shifted i am in the middle of trying to convert my self but it aint easy after more than 20 years on sticks

I am going down today so i will get some high def video rather then the lame camera stuff

[razzor]

stick for me anyday.
I drive both but am so much smoother with stick.

Pitman enjoy ;)

[razzor]

Lee Tylor fastest of caster guys so far half way through 1st round.
he is on a solid 14 lap 10m 21sec
sitting 15th after round 9

[razzor]

Lee Taylor after round 1 is 57th
Of the Caster sister brands highest placing is Ishimas JQ in 21st with a 15 laps 10m 28.29
Highest Hobbytech is Bermudez Cyril with a 14 laps 10m 34.70

[razzor]

The top 20 is looking
Race
Results
Schd
Index
End of Round 1 Heats Qualifying 11:51
Nitro
P Name Result
1 Ryan Lutz 16/10m 37.48
2 Yannick Aigoin 16/10m 39.03
3 Neil Cragg 16/10m 39.61
4 Jared Tebo 15/ 9m 54.59
5 Darren Bloomfield 15/ 9m 56.24
6 Riccardo Rabitti 15/10m 1.67
7 Lee Martin 15/10m 2.82
8 Robert Batlle 15/10m 6.11
9 Miguel Matias 15/10m 6.75
10 Richard Saxton 15/10m 7.13
11 Borja Hernandez Cordoba 15/10m 7.88
12 Dani Vega Frias 15/10m 10.28
13 Graham Alsop 15/10m 10.61
14 Brent Thielke 15/10m 16.17
15 Dave Crompton 15/10m 18.22
16 Jerome Sartel 15/10m 19.08
17 Martin Bayer 15/10m 23.26
18 Jorn Neumann 15/10m 24.93
19 Richi Gomez 15/10m 25.61
20 Daniel Reckward 15/10m 26.68

[razzor]

Electrics
Electric
P Name Result
1 Ryan Maifield 8/ 5m 11.31
2 Riccardo Rabitti 8/ 5m 17.06
3 Tyler Vik 8/ 5m 17.59
4 Ryan Cavalieri 8/ 5m 25.28
5 Lee Martin 8/ 5m 25.68
6 Mathias Larsson 8/ 5m 29.63
7 Darren Bloomfield 8/ 5m 33.78
8 Martin Achter 8/ 5m 35.92
9 Hubert Hönigl 8/ 5m 36.75
10 Philipp Guschl 8/ 5m 42.86
11 Dani Vega Frias 8/ 5m 46.72
12 Jerome Delcourt 7/ 5m 2.37 Hobbytech
13 Nathan Ralls 7/ 5m 10.41 Caster
14 Yaël Zurflüh 7/ 5m 14.21
15 James Helliwell 7/ 5m 26.74
16 Graham North 7/ 5m 33.69 Caster
17 Rob Rasey 7/ 5m 33.70
18 Marc Kreisig 6/ 5m 3.55
19 Gerd Pfeifer 4/ 3m 7.79
20 John Spencer 4/ 5m 5.43 Caster
21 Mark Bailey 3/ 3m 14.51
22 Bart Loomans 2/ 1m 35.34 ishima

[razzor]

After round 2
Race
Results
Schd
Index
End of Round 2 Heats Qualifying 17:03
Nitro
P Name Result
1 Riccardo Rabitti 16/10m 27.43
2 Ryan Maifield 16/10m 30.63
3 Ryan Lutz 16/10m 36.84
4 Ryan Cavalieri 16/10m 38.05
5 Jorn Neumann 16/11m 47.71
6 Borja Hernandez Cordoba 15/ 9m 53.42
7 Yannick Aigoin 15/10m 1.68
8 Richard Saxton 15/10m 2.53
9 Darren Bloomfield 15/10m 4.43
10 Hubert Hönigl 15/10m 4.90
11 Atsushi Hara 15/10m 5.46
12 Richi Gomez 15/10m 5.55
13 Tyler Vik 15/10m 5.59
14 Simon Willetts 15/10m 9.18
15 Brent Thielke 15/10m 9.37
16 Dani Vega Frias 15/10m 9.67
17 Jerome Sartel 15/10m 9.92
18 Graham Alsop 15/10m 12.09
19 Neil Cragg 15/10m 15.90
20 Christoffer Svensson 15/10m 17.67

[razzor]

Electric
P Name Result
1 Ryan Maifield 8/ 5m 7.99
2 Lee Martin 8/ 5m 17.10
3 Ryan Cavalieri 8/ 5m 19.24
4 Riccardo Rabitti 8/ 5m 21.24
5 Mathias Larsson 8/ 5m 25.88
6 Tyler Vik 8/ 5m 26.14
7 Philipp Guschl 8/ 5m 31.41
8 Martin Achter 8/ 5m 35.21
9 Dani Vega Frias 8/ 5m 36.15
10 Nathan Ralls 7/ 5m 12.11
11 Yaël Zurflüh 7/ 5m 14.01
12 Gerd Pfeifer 7/ 5m 14.50
13 Jay Smoker 7/ 5m 17.42
14 Rob Rasey 7/ 5m 22.24
15 Graham North 7/ 5m 22.48
16 Marc Kreisig 7/ 5m 34.08
17 Jerome Delcourt 7/ 5m 35.79
18 Bart Loomans 7/ 5m 41.07
19 James Helliwell 6/ 4m 19.86
20 Darren Bloomfield 4/ 2m 54.65

[razzor]

Hows that for a comeback. Tebo blows them away.


Race
Results
Schd
Index
End of Round 3 Heats Qualifying 19:26
Nitro
P Name Result
1 Jared Tebo 16/10m 33.21
2 Yannick Aigoin 16/10m 33.85
3 Miguel Matias 16/10m 34.91
4 Riccardo Rabitti 16/10m 35.71
5 Jorn Neumann 16/10m 38.85
6 Borja Hernandez Cordoba 16/10m 46.15
7 Ryan Maifield 16/11m 35.79
8 Lee Martin 16/11m 58.94
9 Dani Vega Frias 15/10m 0.49
10 Darren Bloomfield 15/10m 2.22
11 Atsushi Hara 15/10m 2.42
12 Ryan Lutz 15/10m 3.60
13 Jerome Sartel 15/10m 4.53
14 Martin Bayer 15/10m 5.00
15 Hubert Hönigl 15/10m 8.31
16 Neil Cragg 15/10m 8.65
17 Richi Gomez 15/10m 8.92
18 Daniel Reckward 15/10m 9.84
19 Elliot Boots 15/10m 11.11
20 Tyler Vik 15/10m 12.57

[razzor]

overall standings to be posted later. 2 more rounds of qualifiers tomorrow and 1 more for electrics.

[razzor]

http://www.neobuggy.net/images/News/q3res.jpg

[badassrevo]

Nice to see 7 different makes of car in the top 10.

[Mr Fusion]

Yep... lots of brand variety.
7 cars
10 engine
5 tires

[badassrevo]

Overseas races usually have more variety in the top 10 for some reason.
seems like in the states it is ford or chevy if ya know what I mean.

[Mr Fusion]

And I'm so confused... always thought I was a FORD guy, since I mostly owned ford cars and wanted to be different from the majority around here who tend to be chevy fans. But right now I own a Durango family vehicle, Chevy work van, Mazda work car,... and my two old Fords... 1978 F150 and 1993 Escort GT. And I like the new Mustangs, but my dream car is a Corvette Z06/ZR1.

So what am I? A Euro? LOL

[PitMan]

Caster have tq'd













The bar that is all caster driver were first at the bar

I will try to keep you updated but we have no phone signal let alone a 3g one

[PitMan]

Got a good connection now on Iphone the cars have ran well today bit most drivers have been plagued by problems elec engine the odd grub screw adrift. We have two further rounds of qualifying tomorow but for now it's midnight most of us are in the bar relaxing prob till the early hours so we stand a good blury eyed chance tomorrow

[Andy Taylor]

Got a good connection now on Iphone the cars have ran well today bit most drivers have been plagued by problems elec engine the odd grub screw adrift. We have two further rounds of qualifying tomorow but for now it's midnight most of us are in the bar relaxing prob till the early hours so we stand a good blury eyed chance tomorrow

I glad you said most of us...LOL

some of us were trying to get an engine run in at 11.20 and some guy got stroppy about it so we had to pack up.. Some people surely they realsie we would not be running and engine at that hour unless it was important.

Well we now have two engines we can call upon and as Lee sat 45th after round two overall (with two decent runs) we hope to get one good run out of the three to get a decent final on monday.

This 10 minute qualifiers need looking at its crucifying many of the drivers forcing them to run too lean. even tebo had a splash and dash when he took the last round . many top drivers never completed their last lap.

[Mr Fusion]

I wondered why the time sheets looked all messed up.

[razzor]

yeah the 10 min heats adds another dimension to the race that some say disadvantages some and benefits others.

been a very interesting round 2 and 3 with the top order changing all the time.

[janderson78]

I think 10 mins are great for quals. It forces you to drive better. And remeber Pit Stops are part of racing. So you must take it easy on the throtle and drive smooth. Also you must spend less time on your roof. It also forces you to tune your engine which again is part of racing.

How many times in NASCAR do you see peps comming in with one or two laps for a splash and go.

Good Job at the race Caster Drivers

[Mr Fusion]

Nathan Ralls looks to be doing pretty good in the electric class... has a 13th and 10th overall in first two rounds

[Mr Fusion]

Lee Tayor just ran rd 4... 14/10.19 should put him around 60-65th again for the round based on previous rounds times.

[razzor]

yes he has been running well.
Northy was also showing good pace but i think he was having hassles towards the end of his runs.
Lee Taylor has been running well too.

Of the other cars JQ is running in 22nd

[razzor]

lee has been consistantly at that pace and his 2nd run was 9 sec off of a 15 lapper.
one bad run though with 7 laps.
most of the guys have progresively gotten faster.

[razzor]

lee has been consistantly at that pace and his 2nd run was 9 sec off of a 15 lapper.
one bad run though with 7 laps.
most of the guys have progresively gotten faster.

[razzor]

good run in round 3 for Caster Electric guys.
All 3 had there fastest times in this round.


Heat 14 (Electric) R4 Finished 11:38
P C Driver Result
1 1 James Helliwell 7/ 5m 8.21
2 2 Yaël Zurflüh 7/ 5m 9.67
3 4 Nathan Ralls 7/ 5m 10.33
4 8 John Spencer 7/ 5m 10.97
5 6 Graham North 7/ 5m 16.36
6 5 Rob Rasey 7/ 5m 18.95
7 9 Bart Loomans 7/ 5m 25.11
8 10 Jay Smoker 7/ 6m 15.82
9 12 Mark Bailey 6/ 5m 8.19
10 11 Jason Moller 2/ 1m 58.25
11 3 Yannis Perogiannakis DNS
11 7 Marc Kreisig DNS
11 13 Moritz Gaul DNS
11 14 Manolis Troullos DNS

[razzor]

Round 4 results
End of Round 4 Heats Qualifying 11:52
Nitro
P Name Result
1 Jared Tebo 16/10m 23.73
2 Robert Batlle 16/10m 30.07
3 Ryan Maifield 16/10m 35.05
4 Neil Cragg 16/10m 36.16
5 Atsushi Hara 16/10m 38.87
6 Lee Martin 16/11m 52.02
7 Martin Bayer 15/10m 2.75
8 Darren Bloomfield 15/10m 3.89
9 Dani Vega Frias 15/10m 5.97
10 Tyler Vik 15/10m 6.46
11 Jorn Neumann 15/10m 7.23
12 Hubert Hönigl 15/10m 7.65
13 Ryan Lutz 15/10m 7.67
14 Viktor Wilck 15/10m 9.99
15 Antonio J. Gomez Salmeron 15/10m 10.18
16 Dave Crompton 15/10m 11.38
17 Borja Hernandez Cordoba 15/10m 11.70
18 Elliot Boots 15/10m 12.49
19 Kevin Brunsden 15/10m 12.76
20 Richi Gomez 15/10m 12.80

[razzor]

looks like Tebo will take TQ.
Only guys that can beat him is Lutz and Rabbitti
They will have to get TQ for next round and Tebo must finish lower than 3rd.

[Andy Taylor]

All the guys are now on C hub. Lee started on C hub and the last to go across was nathan so watch for more speed from Nathan.

lee was on for a great run in round 5 until he came across traffic and waited for a passing opportunity but a back marker decided to use him as a brake...:) Got taken out 3 times on the last two laps......but I suppose thats racing. Car was dialed out there but we will not be on that early tommorow so we are going softer to make it easier over the bumps.

Oh well off to prep the car for tomorrows finals. With 6 bumping up it should be fun.

Any questions you guys want to ask any of the lads racing over here I will go and ask them.?

[razzor]

Whats the reasoning behind going with the C-hub setup ??

[razzor]

A. Semi (Electric) Finished 16:06
P C Driver Result
1 1 Ryan Maifield 16/10m 17.02
2 2 Riccardo Rabitti + 24.70
3 5 Darren Bloomfield + 24.72
4 3 Ryan Cavalieri -2/ 9m 29.73
5 7 Jerome Delcourt -2/ 10m 2.64
6 9 Nathan Ralls -2/ 10m 31.50
7 11 Rob Rasey -3/ 10m 12.24
8 8 James Helliwell -4/ 9m 21.01
9 10 Graham North -4/ 9m 36.09
10 13 Jason Moller -4/ 10m 49.98
11 4 Mathias Larsson -7/ 7m 0.68
12 12 Marc Kreisig -15/ 55.66
13 6 Hubert Hönigl DNS
13 14 Manolis Troullos DNS

[razzor]

B. Semi (Electric) Finished 16:24
P C Driver Result
1 3 Dani Vega Frias 15/10m 18.32
2 4 Philipp Guschl + 6.44
3 7 Gerd Pfeifer -1/ 10m 24.02
4 9 John Spencer -1/ 10m 31.61
5 1 Lee Martin -1/ 10m 36.04
6 2 Tyler Vik -2/ 10m 1.99
7 12 Mark Bailey -3/ 10m 36.01
8 10 Jay Smoker -4/ 9m 8.23
9 11 Bart Loomans -5/ 8m 0.14
10 8 Yaël Zurflüh -6/ 8m 6.25
11 6 Adam Skelding -7/ 5m 55.62
12 5 Martin Achter DNS
12 13 Moritz Gaul DNS
12 14 Yannis Perogiannakis DNS

[Deznuts05]

probably more traction than the pb setup since its a smooth track and everyone (almost everyone) running M3 Holeshots.

Gooo Team Caster!

btw where's Drake/Hara/Moore?

[razzor]

Looks like Nathan Ralls and John Spencer bump up.

[razzor]

top 4 in each lower main bump up.
from the 1/2 finals the top 6 bump up.

[Answer-RC]

2 Casters in the Electric 8th A.! including one of the guys out qing Lee Martin in his heat..

8 am start (UK time) with 3 legs of 10 mins..

Pete

[razzor]

looks like the UK boys are busy :)

[PitMan]

Yeah it's been a good days for the fusions with 2 making the A we have been experimental though as 1 zx1.5 has been running truggy towers front and rear tbh they cars handled better and we prob would have all gone on to them but we only had one set so it's now Bolted on to lee taylors car for tomorrow and I am spending the night wrenching on a fusion prepping it for tomorrow will keep everyone uptodate as much as possiile but No one has a signal her

[razzor]

so you guys are preferring the taller towers ???

[Andy Taylor]

Whats the reasoning behind going with the C-hub setup ??

Lee has always liked mega amounts of steering. C hub provides more steering and more consistent steering. The car is night and day different and whilst I can tell you what we do and what works Nathan Ralls is probably our best bet for explanation into the theory behind it.

I know Nathan said like Lee said (after he has stuck it on his Fusion) it goes where you point it , its stable and it hooks in consistently.

We are also running inboard steering with laydown steering servo, ala the version 1 car. We feel it gives us more positive lock without having to compromise on he servo saver. (This track is tight)

[Dave D]

We are also running inboard steering with laydown steering servo, ala the version 1 car. We feel it gives us more positive lock without having to compromise on he servo saver. (This track is tight)

That's how I run mine and it seems to work great!!

[Andy Taylor]

so you guys are preferring the taller towers ???

Only John Spencer has run the truggy towers but Lee has blagged them for his final as they provide an increased amount of droop something the Standard car has little of. With a change of camber almost every corner the car should benefit from the increased droop and it should be better over the jumps......of which there are many.....finally it should provide better performance over the bumps by flowing the contours instead of skipping then and catching the back end from time to time.

[Andy Taylor]

I am spending the night wrenching on a fusion prepping it for tomorrow will keep everyone uptodate as much as possiile but No one has a signal her

My lap top is working fine on Vodaphone so I can let pitman use it if needed but my guess is the BBK coverage is as good as anything??

[Andy Taylor]

[quote=razzor;27780]looks like the UK boys are busy :)[/qu

Luckily we are in a later final so we have 3 hours in the morning so I am having a night off spannering and I am watching TV with my wife in the Motorhome. very cosy we are now the heating has kicked in. LOL

[Mr Fusion]

I'm planning to run a c-hub car this summer myself to compare side by side. I have finally come around to where I like the PB setup for durability, no slop, etc. I have had zero issues with the PB, unlike the broken and stripped knuckles I've had on some other cars in the past. But I want to see what the car feels like with c-hubs.

[razzor]

andy what front towers do you guys have on teh 1.5R ???
the short or long one ???
my cars all have the short one with more droop.

[janderson78]

Congrats to Caster, Answer and Nathan Ralls for the great showing in the A Main at the NEO!!! Some great racing on the internet!

[badassrevo]

That is great to see two Fusions in the A. There was some serios comp there.
See if you can get some pics of the Caster with the Tekin system on it.

[DustinH]

How do you run a laydown steering servo on the 1.5?

[razzor]

overall event final results :
http://www.rcnews.net/live/statichtml/mtg1/ressum.htm

Dustin they use the ZX-1R radio plate for the laydown steering servo.
A decent showing from all and i am sure a learning curve of note.

congrats guys you get a 10 /10 for effort ;)

[Deznuts05]

oops! haha thanks raz!

[badassrevo]

3 of the 4 Fusions in the top 20 And a Hobbytech in there too.

[spenner]

First of all ...... WOW what a busy weekend!!!

Got to say the weekend was full of up's and downs.. but finished well by making the Elec 8th A main.

Didn't actually manage to finish a run in nitro and the rnd 2 which would have been good 14 lapper i ran out of fuel... So with Pitman wrenching for me it was decided to play with the car.

Truggy shock towers installed all round.... The car was transformed, i knocked 2 sec a lap off my previous best, again small issues during the runs prevented any decent qualifiying. But never the less we now have made a major improvement on the car.
Lee Taylor installed the Truggy towers for his final today and if it hadn't have been for an early problem where he missed 2 laps he would have bumped up. Lee really liked the Truggy towers as the car took the jumps better, drove through the blown out parts like they wasn't there and the car was hooked up in the corners. He managed to improve his best lap by 1 sec.... and was putting these laps in regular.

Elec 8th.... Only managed 1 good run in qualifying after a total nightmare... New car proto Speedo/motor package.. Pitman worked on the car to improve the handling once we got the Tekin RX8/T8 system running at it's best. I bumped up in semi B which was a good run. We still needed more from the car so C Hub was fitted as well as the ZX1.5 front shock tower. Final 1 we had no steering at all and sadly had to run around at the back.. Final 2 and despite a poor start we was much quicker, plenty of steering. This made the car very nervous on the rear and finished 10th.. Final 3 (1st Attempt) Car was changed for more rear traction with the shocks moved in at the rear, Holeshots were fitted and the car was really good to drive... once again major step forwards. Final 3 (re-run) moved the spacers from the top wishbone to push them forward to make the car safer. Again such a small change made a big difference... was running 5th early on keeping Tyler Vik at bay and edging away... but after a few laps and a good start a drive pin broke.. end of!!

All in all it was a good, stressfull at times weekend. Plenty of improvements made to the cars, Nitro and electric. Thanks to Lee (Pitman) for all his wrench time, Pete (Answer RC) for all his hard work and pit man skills, Andy/Lee Taylor (Don't forget setup sheet for me!!!), Randy Pike and Jim Campbell from Tekin for all there help and advice...

Off to relax now with my son and wife....

John Spencer

[badassrevo]

Please post some pics with the Tekin stuff installed.

[Deznuts05]

Freaking amazing! You guys were awsome! I wish I could have been there to see all the improvements! that's really fantastic!

Caster 2009!!

[razzor]

Spenner awesome job bud.
Its great when you have good guys working together to help make you faster.

[Andy Taylor]

overall event final results :
http://www.rcnews.net/live/statichtml/mtg1/ressum.htm

Dustin they use the ZX-1R radio plate for the laydown steering servo.
A decent showing from all and i am sure a learning curve of note.

congrats guys you get a 10 /10 for effort ;)


Yes thats the way. The reason we like it is that it gives a "solid" connection to both wheels and clears the servo horn better than running it upright in our opinion.

[Andy Taylor]

Freaking amazing! You guys were awsome! I wish I could have been there to see all the improvements! that's really fantastic!

Caster 2009!!

The 1st one you all need to do is the front body post mount. We have turned up some delrin so the body post is connected to the front steering brace. This means the body does not split as easy. We ran the mark 1 body shell for 3 days at neo 09 and it lasted. This is one of the most aggressive tracks we ever race on. The problem with shells is when you go too thick on the material they shatter and too thin they split. This mod helps stop the splitting for longer.

[janderson78]

Andy Great Job!!!!

Do you happen to have any pics of all the mods?

[Andy Taylor]

Andy Great Job!!!!

Do you happen to have any pics of all the mods?
Not yet but I will in the week I am just a bit blasted now. Competing against giant factory teams drivers is hard work....lol Good thing we had a cracking group of guys. Its interesting that the team is not just about winning but improving what we have for little outlay.

Just sad Lee could not get out for his final in time. Still with Adam Drake not coming over he still remains (as far as I know) the only Uk driver to have beaten The Drake on Uk soil (or astro as it happens) :p"ka

[bring it on]

First of all ...... WOW what a busy weekend!!!

Got to say the weekend was full of up's and downs.. but finished well by making the Elec 8th A main.
... was running 5th early on keeping Tyler Vik at bay and edging away... but after a few laps and a good start a drive pin broke.. end of!!

John Spencer
John,
Nice Job..:) I race with Tyler Vik here in Cal and he is fast. That is great to hear that you were right there with him.

[Mr Fusion]

Awesome racing guys!! I too would like to see setups and mods that worked for you

[PitMan]

Hi guys sorry I was not able to keep blogging and posting all weekend I really wanted to keep everyone uptodate as it happens but with no signal i could not

So here it is the full story

I arrived friday morning to find most of the team pitting in the corner of the main hall working away on there cars this is the first time we had all come together to work as a team the certainly looked the part and fitted in well with the other big teams in attendance.

On arrival most of the drivers had already switched the the C hub setup because over the lap it felt more consistant.
Decisions were made over tyre choices with driver trying different brands from 6mik's to panthers to proline's the double d's were quick but fell away after 7 minutes the revolvers crimefighters or bowties not even working at all so most drivers went on to jconcept brands most were struggling to find grip to put good times down not sure if anyone tried any caster/vp tyre's

So now it was just down to putting down quick times and coming up with a great setup.

It's true I have not got on with the front end of the caster from my droop thread I started

So I convinced spenny to try the truggy front tower due to more mounting locations and and a more inclined front shock to get more turn in without loosing the rear and this proved to be the hot ticket with the C hub in aswell and the times started to tumbled only problem was we only had 1 set of towers between 7 cars so some drivers had to make do with either the standard tower or short towers and adjust the setup

Most of the caster drivers just had plain rotten luck one driver had blown 2 engines ( not grenade ) trying to make 10 minutes during qual without pitting to speed things up other drivers had stupid things go wrong from a loose grub screw to throwing a Cvd pin to a split pressure line or a flame out.

got to say the car worked pretty flawless to be honest with only 1 whisbone broken and a suspension eyelet.

over the corse of the weekend all the caster started cutting down there lap times and the caster with the truggy towers had knocked a staggering 4 seconds a lap off previous time to put the car 1 second behind the times of the top 20 guys so it was a awfully close event

but the final saw us again have bad luck with spenny running in the A electric running in 7th and then throwing a rear cvd pin which was a shame really as i had spent the previous night from 7pm until 2am wrenching on the car making sure everything was set right and the cvd was the only thing i didnt check doh.....

but then disaster again

our highest place caster driver in nitro again running the truggy towers didnt even make the grid again due to a cvd pin catching on the C-hub we went out 2 laps down but the times were quick quick enough to bump into the next main

but it wasnt to be...

All in all a good weekend for Caster even though we were still drinking at 5am two consectutive nights the team pulled it off and got some good results all the best drivers from Europe, Asia, and America were in attendance so it was a very tough field.....


I will upload pics and video asap

cheers Pitman

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[vnmsgt]

How did the C-hubs hold up? Did you guys use the stock plastic knuckles? If not which knuckles did you use? Also is that the new radio box that is coming out? thanks

[razzor]

That looks like a Mugen radio box.

[PitMan]

Yeah it's mugen box just because the weather in the uk mainly rainy the mugen box is better and a bit better looking.

and we used the alloy c-hubs although the hub insert could do with being 1-2mm longer one hub had the bearing offset from each other so the shaft would be really stiff so I ground some away to bring the bearings back into aglinment was worried about taking too much away and causing the bearing to wobble

[Northy]

All the guys are now on C hub. Lee started on C hub and the last to go across was nathan so watch for more speed from Nathan.

Not me as no one told me about them :(

G

[vnmsgt]

Yeah it's mugen box just because the weather in the uk mainly rainy the mugen box is better and a bit better looking.

and we used the alloy c-hubs although the hub insert could do with being 1-2mm longer one hub had the bearing offset from each other so the shaft would be really stiff so I ground some away to bring the bearings back into aglinment was worried about taking too much away and causing the bearing to wobble

I know they have a allow C-hub but what about the knuckle? The part that the axle goes through. Did you use the stock plastic ones?

[badassrevo]

The pictures show aluminum knuckles.
I have been running the plastic knuckles with no problems. However I do have a set of Hobbytech 7075 knuckles on order.

[PitMan]

The hub what the bearings go through are alloy the camber block was plastic

[Answer-RC]

Hey G!

We only went over on the C Hubs for the A Main dude - you were not missing out lad...

Yours was better in the air than Maifield and all the others ;-)

[razzor]

Was that Hobbytech hubs then ??

[razzor]

i printed and have copies of the races with all the guys and event though there was hassles you can see consistency.

Northy i think you ran well bud ;0
with some more time on the car you will get faster.

[Northy]

i printed and have copies of the races with all the guys and event though there was hassles you can see consistency.

Northy i think you ran well bud ;0
with some more time on the car you will get faster.

Thanks dude. I guess I'm happy, I hadn't raced an 8th scale car since the last Neo and the Fusion had only done a few minutes shake down on astro turf to make sure nothing fell to bits.

I was also in the very competitive semi :( as it turned out. I would have made the main if I'd have been in the other. :(

However, I'm now not sure when I'll get chance to run it again :(

G

[Answer-RC]

Get to one of the smelly meetings G! Most of them will let you run with them..
You did well dude.. The whole semi bump up thing seemed a bit screwy.. Meant to be 6+6 and the two fastest loosers but they seem to have gone 7+7....

[razzor]

i was going to ask that but then they posted in the chat that top 4 would bump and only top 6 from the 1/2 finals up.

But at the end of the day there was plenty exposure that i hope turns to positives for Caster and answer-rc and especially for you Pete.
Visibly the name was out there.

Pete let me know if there is going to be a DVD !!

[Northy]

Thanks Pete, and thanks for all your help with the car.
I have some ideas I'd like to try (Pete hasn't told you about my special mod yet), but not sure when I'll get chance. Guess it'll look nice on the shelf :rolleyes:

Will have to get a new shell, it's dead :(

G

[razzor]

Well tell us more !!! better yet...
Nopics

[Answer-RC]

Il leave G to tel you about his inventions... It certainly seemed to work in one sense (control in the air) but a bit of back to back against the original set up is needed..

I cant decide if G is some looper scientist or on the verge of a breakthrough.
His invention nearly made one hardcore rallycross guy vomit though.

Is it an invention G or a set up technique?

[Andy Taylor]

I know they have a allow C-hub but what about the knuckle? The part that the axle goes through. Did you use the stock plastic ones?

Nope. I have yet to see one break but we have always run ally knuckles on our other cars .

They are made by castor for another car apparently. I was that confident on the C hubs I purchased 6 sets and 3 sets of knuckles............not many left now LOL

[bring it on]

So it is sounding like the c-hubs is the way to go. Ha

[hakmazter]

Well, that should add some fuel to the debate....

[Andy Taylor]

So it is sounding like the c-hubs is the way to go. Ha

Well for us yes. But you still need to look at the Mugen MBX 6 to see they still run pivot ball and to see Elliot boots to see how quick it is.

I am not convinced its either or just yet. My feeling is that pivot ball is kinder to new drivers. Also Lee like mega amounts of steering. On this track it was essential but on others it might not be so critical.

Pete has already suggested we need back to back tests to see how things go.

[badassrevo]

The c-hub gives much quicker turn in and it feels much more agressive. I am used to 1/10th electric so I prefer a more responsive car. I let a few guys drive my car and they said it was "twichy" now compared to the PBS.

[bring it on]

Thanks for the info and i like a lot of steering as well so i had to grind on my pivot ball hubs. thanks again

[razzor]

i have plenty steering in fact i could with less :)

[Andy Taylor]

i have plenty steering in fact i could with less :) You can always the EPA to get less. But in your case it might be better to stick with Pivot ball. Lee tells me it makes the steering more consistant though.

[razzor]

Very interesting though and i will try teh C-hub out sometime just to gauge the difference

[PitMan]

http://www.vimeo.com/4156089

here is the first of a very short video the caster car is the one with the black wing and white wheels

[PitMan]

http://rcracedates.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=5032293

a link to the event pics

[PitMan]

http://www.vimeo.com/4156641

second short video


sorry i just could not get a full lap of any caster going around due to the access points around the track area as some area's were off limits and the track dipped in places so you lost the car

[hakmazter]

What are the odds of you sending me the first one by email?

mike@casterracingusa.com

[hakmazter]

Just for fun.....

http://casterracingusa.com/files/neocaster.jpg

[PitMan]

send me your email hak and you can have whatever you need

[Mr Fusion]

Videos are great.... nice driving... would love to see more!

[PitMan]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09/day04/OOP_9706.jpg

here is a team pic going from rght to left is

john spencer ( spenny )
Me ( pitman )
pete ( answer-rc )
James overton (-----)
Paul ( aka Pit bitch )
( cookie )
Andy Taylor
Nathan ralls
Rob ( the drunk )
minty ( or ewok )
Ash
and cookies kids morgan and ben

people missing from photo was lee taylor and northy lee had gone to work and northy wasnt invited lol

( onnly kidding Northy )

[Northy]

[IMG]
people missing from photo was lee taylor and northy lee had gone to work and northy wasnt invited lol

( onnly kidding Northy )

No your not, I wasn't invited.......:mad:

Oh well, I can take my toys elsewhere.

G

[Answer-RC]

G - I couldnt find you anywhere! It was just before the big A Main... Where were you - send me a photo and I will mount you in there ;-)

Pete

[Answer-RC]

Also boys - dont forget to play fair with Jimmys photos ;-)

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22433

[cheesecake]

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[hakmazter]

send me your email hak and you can have whatever you need

it is very difficult.

mike@casterracingusa.com

[Mr Fusion]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09/day04/OOP_9706.jpg

here is a team pic going from rght to left is


people missing from photo was lee taylor and northy lee had gone to work and northy wasnt invited lol



And here I thought that must be taylor and northy holding the cars... front and center... :D

[hakmazter]

I would put them on my team ifthat was the case.

[PitMan]

no they were just some random hotties that wanted a picture with us cool kids lol...!!!


but this one I couldnt resist................

So what if I had not raced i still had spent the better half of 2 days wrenching on casters trying to make the A so this was my little reward.

jezzzzz glad the wife doesnt cruise the forums lol

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/blueisbetter/100_2037-1.jpg?t=1239869473

[razzor]

:) naughty ....

[Dave D]

Damn I think it is time to go to the UK.

[badassrevo]

NICE!!

[bring it on]

Very NICE....

[DustinH]

Wish my local track had a few of those, lol!!

[PitMan]

a longer video clip of spenny with the fusion


http://www.vimeo.com/4189736

[vnmsgt]

a longer video clip of spenny with the fusion

http://www.vimeo.com/4189736

That is a nic vid! Was going pretty good.

[YDBD]

Do they wave their legs at the finish with those checkered stockings?

[niggs98]

Lee has always liked mega amounts of steering. C hub provides more steering and more consistent steering. The car is night and day different and whilst I can tell you what we do and what works Nathan Ralls is probably our best bet for explanation into the theory behind it.

I know Nathan said like Lee said (after he has stuck it on his Fusion) it goes where you point it , its stable and it hooks in consistently.




hiya all only just found the forum.

the c hub front end has been run twice now by myself. on both occasions i have found it to be more consistent through the turn rather than having the on and off power snatch that the pbs gives whilst losing mid corner. c hub also gives more steering ie you use what you need rather than all and hope its enough. i have run it on the electric and the nitro car now with the same results on both. i have also tried different shock towers on the front as the kit nitro one doesnt seem to give enough droop. for me tho i run the electric front tower as it is shorter and give some dremel love to the wishbones and hubs on the front to get even more droop. hope this helps. i will sort out a setup and pics soon to explain better?&^

Nathan Ralls

[PitMan]

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[cheesecake]

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thats going to be my shop computer screen saver