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rpg711
07-30-2008, 10:16 AM
Ok, I effectively started it for 5 seconds 2 days ago, and then it died.
Today, I tried again, with fresh fuel, to start it, and all that happened was the nitro was burnt and the oil was getting spurted out of the exhaust... no start.
When I primed it, I could hear an audible "ssssss" sound like there was an air leak. What's wrong with this thing?

vnmsgt
07-30-2008, 10:35 AM
Sounds like it might be flooded. You will get a hssss when you push pressure into the carb. Remove the glow plug and turn car upside down and turn it over and see if fuel comes out. Tilt the car on its side to drain exhaust from fuel and remember to check glow plug. If in doubt try new glow plug. Also make sure nobody touched your needle settings, heard of that before with kids being around LOL!

rpg711
07-30-2008, 10:49 AM
I flooded it quite a few times, but I cleared it and (quite a bit of fuel) came out.
at first I thought it was sparks, but it was the oil spurting out of the exhaust.
Dunno, tried for 30 mins today.
i REALLY need a starter box... my arm hurts.

vnmsgt
07-30-2008, 11:00 AM
You could try pinching the fuel line going into the carb, THEN clear it out again holding the throttle wide open. Then try and start it. It should start up and the instant it does remove the pinch from the fuel line. Just a thought.

rpg711
07-30-2008, 01:18 PM
Didnt work, it feels like it wants to start but it can't keep the line pressure or soemthing.
The fuel that gets sucked into the engine goes straight out of the exhaust, unburned

vnmsgt
07-30-2008, 01:51 PM
Change glow plug?? If the fuel ain't burning and the needles are not set way to rich where they will fall out then it should be the glow plug. Make sure the nipple that the fuel line goes on the carb is not loose and that you fuel tank is sealing on the lid too.

rpg711
07-30-2008, 02:02 PM
As I've said, I've started it before 2 days ago but it instantly cut out(after about 3 seconds)
and then it wouldn't start anymore

rpg711
07-30-2008, 04:09 PM
It tried to start twice today, and instantly died out like always.
I have changed to my two new plugs already, my old ones have black lines in them so they are burnt, but my new ones are still shiny.

rpg711
07-30-2008, 04:17 PM
Yeah help me because I'm going to the track in 2 days(it's 35 miles away so I don't want to waste my chance) and if it doesnt start I'm screwed

vnmsgt
07-30-2008, 04:34 PM
I just do not understand the fuel coming out as bad as you say it is. If you have fuel, compression (did you check that?) and a good glow plug (did you check your ignitor to see if it works) that lights up bright then it should run.

rpg711
07-30-2008, 04:47 PM
My plugs have never lit up bright, but they always get really hot and I've never had problems with my plugs not heating up.

vnmsgt
07-30-2008, 07:03 PM
The brighter they light up the easier it will start, becuase it can burn the fuel. Might be your glow ignitor. Whenever my ignitor lit my glow plugs up dim they never started good or did not start.

I CANNOT BELIEVE NO ONE HAS POSTED HERE TO HELP!!! :mad: C'MON MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING WE ARE MISSING TO GET THIS STARTED!!

razzor
07-31-2008, 03:24 AM
i do aggree with vnmsgt the glow starter should light up that glow plug also from teh sounds of it you are still very rich.
have to taken out teh glow plug and turned over the motor a few times to get teh excess fuel out ??
is the engine still locking ?? if yes dont tighten down the glow plug when starting it it will bleed some comnpression of and make it easier to start.

Biggest help would be to have a starter box by now your fingers will be sore .

rpg711
07-31-2008, 07:37 AM
I can't be rich because the force 21 engine I dont know about, but it's operating at 230-245F(measured with IR sensor)
I don't have quite enough compression to lock the engine(and not much pinch left) but I have gotten the fuel out.
Now I've got ANOTHER problem.
My antenna broke off at the base... so it's stuck in there now.

vnmsgt
07-31-2008, 07:39 AM
I can't be rich because the force 21 engine I dont know about, but it's operating at 230-245F(measured with IR sensor)
I don't have quite enough compression to lock the engine(and not much pinch left) but I have gotten the fuel out.
Now I've got ANOTHER problem.
My antenna broke off at the base... so it's stuck in there now.

For your antenna just take the piec off of the radio box that the antenna goes into and get a pic or small screwdriver, stick it and it will pop out.

rpg711
07-31-2008, 08:07 AM
I tried starting it again, it started and ended AGAIN.
I kept the lighter on, and the moment I took it off it stopped within 2 seconds.
Gah...
If this keeps up I'll go fusion style... lol...

razzor
07-31-2008, 08:51 AM
try and richen lsn by 10 mins.

rpg711
07-31-2008, 09:40 AM
Well, I'm going to go out and buy the charger for the rechargeable lighter that came with the RTR.