K8T Set up sheet

[hakmazter]

http://casterracingusa.com/files/K8TSetupSheet.bmp

[bc24fl]

Speaking of, has anyone here used a setup tool... Hudy or others? Worth every penny or NOT?

[vnmsgt]

I just use my calibrated eye!:p

[bc24fl]

Supposedly it makes a big difference on the track so I was wondering if anyone currently uses one.

[vnmsgt]

I want one but have not got one yet.

[Jonathan Bell]

I have used the hudy. To be perfectly honest in offroad I think its a wait of money. I ahve set my stuff up on the board and put on the tires and wheels and one wouldnt be true so I would re adjust it with the naked eye. The plastic wheels bend and bow a bit. And with the amount of play in general we generate from crashes and what not it just isn't feesable in my opinion.

[manynitros]

Speaking of, has anyone here used a setup tool... Hudy or others? Worth every penny or NOT?

My Drivers and I have found some great, consistent success with the use of our own Machined Setup Boards and Calibration Tools; ie) mics, calipers, dial test indicators, etc... however the HUDY is our Favorite. We don't use them every week, but they are a great tool to use to get you back to your current "winningest" setup faster, when your vehicles start to get sloppy and wear. Your tires will wear less and you will become more aware of your CG and Roll Centers. Shock Balancing is noticeable more than ever. If you don't have access to your own Machine Shop then get a setup station. If you get one, get the HUDY. I can go on and on but here are a few things to think about...

This will help you fine tune for Optimal Left to Right and Front to Rear Balance. Most drivers that we have seen still don't balance their wheels and tires at all. If they do balance their wheels and tires, they are frequently doing it before they finalize adjustments to their vehicle and the balancing is usually done on a seperate machine. Thus when they are installed on your vehicle, they change. When you change/tweak settings on your vehicle, weight distributions are thrown off. In essence, alot of time wasted for no optimal gains---and frequent headaches!

Get your vehicle dialed in on a board and with a great setup system. You will reap the rewards. Once you get everything dialed in, Don't forget the Basics. Roll Centers, CG, Droop, How weight transfer affects traction...we all tend to forget about these when we concentrate on the physical adjustments to the Ackermann, Caster, Camber, Shock Tower positions, etc...

Most adjustments we have made on our vehicles, we keep the same from track to track. You would be surprised once you really get dialed in, how little you need to change from track to track. Sometimes just a High Downforce Wing, or a Regular Wing can dramatically change the action of your vehicle. Keep setup sheets in a binder, filled out completely with every vehicle, color code them with every change you make.

We always start with a Setup System, then make sure to get these things right!!!...oils, tires, body, wing and ride height. Then go from there.

Sorry, tried to keep it simple. I hope everyone can at least take one thing from what I have mentioned and apply it to their racing.

[bc24fl]

My Drivers and I have found some great, consistent success with the use of our own Machined Setup Boards and Calibration Tools; ie) mics, calipers, dial test indicators, etc... however the HUDY is our Favorite. We don't use them every week, but they are a great tool to use to get you back to your current "winningest" setup faster, when your vehicles start to get sloppy and wear. Your tires will wear less and you will become more aware of your CG and Roll Centers. Shock Balancing is noticeable more than ever. If you don't have access to your own Machine Shop then get a setup station. If you get one, get the HUDY. I can go on and on but here are a few things to think about...

This will help you fine tune for Optimal Left to Right and Front to Rear Balance. Most drivers that we have seen still don't balance their wheels and tires at all. If they do balance their wheels and tires, they are frequently doing it before they finalize adjustments to their vehicle and the balancing is usually done on a seperate machine. Thus when they are installed on your vehicle, they change. When you change/tweak settings on your vehicle, weight distributions are thrown off. In essence, alot of time wasted for no optimal gains---and frequent headaches!

Get your vehicle dialed in on a board and with a great setup system. You will reap the rewards. Once you get everything dialed in, Don't forget the Basics. Roll Centers, CG, Droop, How weight transfer affects traction...we all tend to forget about these when we concentrate on the physical adjustments to the Ackermann, Caster, Camber, Shock Tower positions, etc...

Most adjustments we have made on our vehicles, we keep the same from track to track. You would be surprised once you really get dialed in, how little you need to change from track to track. Sometimes just a High Downforce Wing, or a Regular Wing can dramatically change the action of your vehicle. Keep setup sheets in a binder, filled out completely with every vehicle, color code them with every change you make.

We always start with a Setup System, then make sure to get these things right!!!...oils, tires, body, wing and ride height. Then go from there.

Sorry, tried to keep it simple. I hope everyone can at least take one thing from what I have mentioned and apply it to their racing.

Very well said. I'm a tad bit confused though as we all can measure and get it right using the hudy. But how does one determine the baseline of numbers you need to be at... or is it always the same with few mods per track?

If we use the upcoming race in Alabama as an example (see events threads) as the track what exactly am I looking for in standards. From what I saw in the vid it has some long str8s, turns don't look real tight, but jumps are big. I'd say tuning for those jumps and xtra traction is the key to that track. Any ideas?

Thanks!

[bc24fl]

My guess on that track with the K8T would be heavier on the diff / shock oils... ride height about a quarter of an inch higher than stock, softer tires (prob holeshots), preferable a 7 port .21 engine, and tighter springs for my big bores? Am I in the ball park?

[razzor]

I always work of a base setup sheet when i set the chassis up on my TeamMagic setup .
Once at teh track i adjust both left and right in the same increments and if the handling is really way out go back to the base setup and start again.
A setup kit i dont really use at teh track but at home or at the hotel when you have more time to go over everything.